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Lisa Nandy: Prime Minister

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

Wigan's MP might one day become Prime Minister

Started: 22nd Oct 2023 at 13:47

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

Awaiting the usual yapping to start.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 13:49

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6556) 

TTS
Please start taking your medicine again you know what you are like once your off your MEDS ???
G.B.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 13:50

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

I suppose Andy Burnham may stand in the Leigh constituency, Jo Platt being moved elsewhere, and he could become Prime Minister, with Lisa Nandy as Chancellor of the Exchequer or vice versa

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 13:56

Posted by: Stardelta (11947)

I thought Todgers head exploded a long time ago but if she does become PM I might be in for a surprise

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 15:49

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

Doo yoo like surprises

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 16:23

Posted by: gaffer (7972) 

Given that Tony Blair will be using his proxy Peter Mandelson to pull the strings of a new Labour government Lisa Nandy will be a non starter.

This is from an exchange on Andrew Neil’s Daily Politics some time ago.

That’s palpable rubbish; I have never heard anything so ridiculous”

Lord Mandelson on Lisa Nandy comments about New Labour accepting Thatcherite economic Conservativism

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 16:38

Posted by: bentlegs (5318)

Burnham . Don't want in the job ,he is a waste of time,

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 16:40

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Well, as an MP for a 'Northern' constituency, she is hardly able to endorse sir Keith Joseph's assertion that investment should be withheld from the North and a process of managed decline be pursued.

PS The Cabinet Office Record was ALTERED to avoid disclosure of this, at least as it pertained to Merseyside. This was disclosed in the 2011 release of previously classified material under the Thirty Years review. (Fortunately for Merseyside, Michael Heseltine, and not Keith Joseph got his way.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 17:29

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

I do wonder if managed decline was the 'elephant in the room' and now we face the consequences of levelling up which eludes any attempts to achieve.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 17:33

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

So Lisa Nandy peed off, Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair, so it doesn't look like she will become Prime Minster

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 18:04

Posted by: gaffer (7972) 

It was Geoffrey Howe who proposed the managed decline of Liverpool on the basis that 10% of the population had departed in the previous 10 years and was still falling.
Michael Heseltine was a good choice to send to Liverpool. As a property man he could see that the state of the old dock buildings and generally dirty area along the river would preclude the private investment needed to rebuild Liverpool.
I was working in Liverpool when Michael Heseltine came along. There’s no doubt in those days labour relations were a turn off for potential investors.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 18:12
Last edited by gaffer: 22nd Oct 2023 at 18:17:12

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

I remember in the late 1960s and early 1970s that the multitude of Liverpool folk who came to Wigan and Ashton, were scousers who wanted to work and buy their own houses, because most scousers were on strike all the time and actually made a living from stealing things.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 18:37

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

"At the end of 2011, the release of confidential documents under the UK Government's 30-year rule revealed Joseph's thoughts regarding the Liverpool riots. In response to Michael Heseltine's regeneration proposal, Joseph suggested that there should be a "managed rundown" of Merseyside instead. Later, his private secretary asked for minutes of a meeting to be amended to remove reference to explicit economic regeneration......."

From:Gainsbury, Sally (30 December 2011). "Tories debated letting Liverpool 'decline'". Financial Times. Archived from the original on 10 December 2022. Retrieved 22 July 2014.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 19:35

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

I think I have told the tale before about when I took some German blokes to Liverpool Airport, and on the way there, one of them wanted me to stop outside of the Jaguar Factory in Speke, so that he could take a picture of it, because he owned a Jag, and wanted a picture of where it was built, and he had the address as being in Speke, and whilst he was taking the picture, his highly amused colleagues brought up the question about Fords of Halewood, and the notorious reputation it had for bad industrial relations, there always being strikes at the plant, and one of them asked me if the Halewood factory was nearby, so he was quite shocked when I said "that's it" pointing at the factory.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 22:24

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Had a job interview in Liverpool in 1960's.

Was offered the post, and sent across town to get my photo ID made up at photographer which the company used.

En route, came to the conclusion that, I can't come here to work every day: it is just too depressing.

So bailed out and hopped the train back to Bryn instead.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 22:48

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

TTS, "proper" Jaguars have never been made in Halewood. You should've told the Jerry that!

Replied: 22nd Oct 2023 at 23:52

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

AND, were they actually really just a Ford Mondeo underneath

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 00:09

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

No.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 00:37

Posted by: Owd Codger (3149)

Lisa Nandy: Prime Minister.

If it happens, we can only hope she does more for country than what she has ever done for Wigan!

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 08:22
Last edited by Owd Codger: 23rd Oct 2023 at 11:28:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

Why ?

What as she never done for Wigan, and what could she have done for Wigan ?

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 11:37

Posted by: whups (13294) 

i think lisa would make a very good prime minister .

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 12:10

Posted by: mortarmillbill (929)

She will attempt to reverse brexit!

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 12:12

Posted by: whups (13294) 

good.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 12:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 13:57

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

Nandy as PM would lead to a further inrush of immigrants, plus much money spent on housing, healthcare and education specifically for them!

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 17:29

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 10:29

Posted by: Owd Codger (3149)

Imposed on the constiuency by the Labour Party Central Office with local constiuency members having no say in the selection process.

It's what party leaderships call democracy!

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 10:48

Posted by: gideonfel (344)

Lisa Nandy has voiced her support for 'trans women' who are sent to prison should be allowed to go to a women's prison, so rapists can have a field day when they are banged up. The world has gone mad.

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 11:24

Posted by: owdfettler (29)

Tony Bliar, labour party,weapons of mass destruction.enough said.muti,multi,millionaire.,

Replied: 28th Oct 2023 at 13:20

Posted by: Owd Codger (3149)

And what about Labour Party doners like Robert Maxwell and Bernie Eccleston?

No hardship there, just fraud!

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 06:56

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2747)

Gideonfel I spent time working in a women's prison trust me it's the rapists who would be in danger

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 09:09

Posted by: beep54 (1036)

Hopefully The Now Wigan MP will be ousted by an Independent

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 15:28

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

And what difference will it make? Absolutely none at all !

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 18:58

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

It'll make a huge difference.

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 19:31

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

In what way?

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 20:07

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

Lisa will be out of a job.
That'll be a huge difference for her.

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 20:11

Posted by: tonker (27984) 

She'll aft' go back on t'doors!

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 20:54

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2747)

Let's all be honest ,she couldn,t do as bad as the last 3 Tory spice who have run the country into the ground now before the usual suspects start calling her somebody tell me what the last 3 pls have improved ,13 years of total rubbish

Replied: 29th Oct 2023 at 23:08

Posted by: paul faza (58)

Wigan council runs out of money and goes in debt .I'm afraid your council tax is going up piss up in a brewery comes to mind

Replied: 4th Nov 2023 at 20:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15459)

I don't think Wigan's Council's finances are in too bad a shape.

Replied: 4th Nov 2023 at 22:43

 

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